It depends on the weapon and what it's meant to do. My AK for instance is for medium ranges, if I can hit a badguy in the head at 100 yards, it's doing it's job. I would expect a lot more from my fullhouse .30cal's because they are mostly for 300-500+yards for me. A pocket gun ought to be able to get consistent bullseyes at 5 yards, and a fullsize combat pistol should be able to make a head shot at 25 yards.
Minute of looting moron is good for me! Pistols say 4-5" at 25-50 yds. My Garand is supremely accurate out to 400-500yds. My bull barrel 308 shoots .48" at 100 yds from the bench so in the field it's at least 1 MOA provided I do my part.
Less than two MOA is a good starting point for rifles. How much less depends on the type of rifle and loads.
Handguns are, for me, more about fit and feel rather than rested or machine accuracy. I can shoot groups like a shotgun pattern with an Olympic class match pistol that does not fit. I can actually shoot my handguns that fit rather well.
Nearly all the holes in a paper plate at the longest intended range of use is not a bad down and dirty guideline.
I think a fair and true assessment of anyones accuracy would be this, you take your favorite "one hole" shooter, lay prone, get comfy, and shoot a couple of "control" groups while your buddy watches, suitably impressed, I might add.
Now, after you've shown him how its done, do it again, but this time, he zaps you in the butt, at random intervals with a good stun gun, as he feels like it, while you shoot. I think the resulting groups will be more of a "true and realistic" assessment of what you will get, when you have to shoot under some stress.
On a military rifle, two minutes of angle. On a precission rifle, one minute of angle. On a Mini 14, minute of berm.
On center fire pistols, if they will hold a groupe of five rounds in the circle made by a three pound coffee can at 25 yards is what I call accurate. .22lr pistols should hold a group of five rounds in a circle made by a one pound coffee can at 25 yards.
I can keep my shots in an 8" circle at 25 yards with my 4" barell revolver . This might not seem very good to a lot of people on this forum but for me I think it's pretty good. I've had my revolver for less than 2 years and I can't afford to practice as much as I'd like.
quote:Originally posted by WARCHILD1: Acuret for me is hitting exactly what I aim at every time.
That's it in my world, too!
If it hits what you're trying to hit, pretty close to where you're trying to hit it, it's accurate enough.
Target shooting is great fun, don't get me wrong, but I don't plan on shooting at paper in bad times. For practice, I just count the holes in the right place vs. the number of times I pulled the trigger. Then I' done.